Kendra Followup Interview Part 2

Why have the Browns never come out to protect you?

https://vimeo.com/167588055

I really wish honestly I had an answer to that because this is how it is. No matter what happened over the past 5 or 6 years no matter what was said about this family I always defended them. Whether I believed it was true or not. Whether I even had the truth or not. I always made sure they were taken care of and covered. But the reality is they never once stood up or defended me. There was a time that I did ask them to not defend me in the beginning of all of this I kind of wanted just to let it go and see what happened. I think after this amount of time and to see how much I have been slammed publicly with all of this stuff at some point in time true friends would jump in the mix and say you know what Kendra did not do this Kendra did not do that. I definitely did not catfish them. I know that for a fact and that rumor is still going around heavy and strong. Another rumor going around is that Robyn and I created this story or scenario to get rid of Meri. That’s not true. You would have thought they would have at least defended me on that but they haven’t. So I don’t have any answers. Because the only thing I can think of is they haven’t gone out and defended me because part of them believes and knows the truth is out there still. And Meri is just not telling it.

What is the fan reaction to all of this?

https://vimeo.com/167588257

The fans are actually really devastated by all of it. They are hurt. Well you have to understand at the beginning of the show people did not understand polygamy. They didn’t know what it was. And what they did know about it was all negative. It was just the Warren Jeffs side of it. The whole point of the Browns coming out was to give a platform for these families to come out and be free and give space to discuss their lifestyle and their family situations and be proud of their families and gain acceptance for it. The Browns made that happen for a while. A few years. It was becoming more and more accepting so they gained a huge fan base over that. People fell in love with their family. They loved to see their family grow they loved to watch Kody take care of all of his wives and children. Even some of the haters turned into understanding of the family I thought it was great. Well unfortunately when this happened it kinda showed the cracks in the family and everything people questioned for so long. They questioned how can Kody handle so many wives and keep them all happy and emotionally and otherwise. Well usually when a wife steps out on a family for any reason whether it’s emotional or physical it’s because they are not satisfied at home. And it makes Kody look, he looks completely bad at this point. It’s made him look like he’s neglecting his wife. He got so much negative hate over this. That was the one issue I had in the beginning of all of this is how it was making the family looked. It was affecting  how Robyn looked. People already hated Robyn for just being in the family and now of course they started the whole she’s the favorite wife and how Kody is the worst husband because he neglects his family and on and on and on. So if the Browns had ever wanted to keep their family whole and safe and all that Meri’s actions are completely unacceptable. The worst part for me is to sit here and watch Kody and his wives defend Meri’s actions. And find it to be acceptable for even stepping out to have any of these conversations to begin with. Because in the polygamy world, especially in the faith-based of it this is not acceptable behavior. You don’t have outside relationships of any kind. You don’t do that. So fans are having a really hard time with that. They are having a hard time seeing all that happen on tv. And to see her sit here and talk about it they don’t believe her. They don’t believe it because they have seen too much evidence. They want to sit there and prove and discuss all of these voicemails and pictures.

What is the fans reactions to all the voicemails?

https://vimeo.com/167588342

They think it’s disgusting and they think it proves she had a full on relationship with somebody. And at this point they don’t even care who. They don’t care about circumstances. They just said that she has completely stepped out of her relationship. Some of them, you have some defending her. She shouldn’t be in this relationship, the ones that are like me they don’t think she should be in a relationship, they think she should run and be with Sam. Then there’s the ones that find it disgusting in the marital aspect because they felt like its inappropriate spiritually. It’s just a mixed bag. But the majority is they give their ha ha, proved you right, polygamy is a bad thing. And that’s exactly what all the people who are supportive as far as me, never wanted to have happen. Was t o have a public figure or show, people representing these families in a way have these things happen because it just makes everyone look bad.

What will Meri get out of this new special she is doing on catfishing? They are already getting paid double what they used to make because they have filmed twice as many shows.

https://vimeo.com/167588400

At this point in time first of all through all of the years of Sister Wives. When Sister Wives is off-season, online it’s off-season. Nobody talks about it. It’s a moot point. Ever since this started it has gone on season, on and off-season, 24/7 people are talking about this catfish scenario. First it was Meri’s relationship and who was she talking to. Who is Sam? That was the last season. And this season is all about the catfishing. Off season it has been nonstop talk. So in many ways the fans are correct this is absolutely a ratings and moneymaker keeping this show on air. Because otherwise what the heck were they even going to be talking about. I can’t even imagine how they were going to fill this season and the last season to be honest with you. There was not much more to do with the Brown family. So this has been a huge ratings kicker (The ratings are actually down) and moneymaker. And that’s the problem in many ways. The fans are 100% in belief that this was all set up. They really still, they are like this is the theory. If Sam is really not real they still 100% believe that Lindsay was hired to play whatever. And mystery Sam was hired. They even think a guy was hired. You should really see some of the scenarios, I don’t want to say that, but it’s pretty funny. This is a big time moneymaker. And that’s the point of it. They want to keep it going and now it’s going to become. I don’t even know. It’s going to be a big show at this point I guess. To be honest. I never even expected for this show to come out of it, I find it hysterical that a show is coming out of it. And proof of point there’s a catfish show coming out with Meri Brown on it discussing why she was catfished yet Lindsay is still around and Sam is still around. So I’m not too sure how all of this is being honest. Once again this goes back to honesty. If she’s making, if their profiting in any way from all of this then it shows that unfortunately it’s fraudulent. It’s not true.

What about the rumor TLC tried to pay you guys (Sam, Lindsay, and you) to shut up?

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I was actually threatened a few times by phone call that I was going to be sued by the TLC network if I didn’t shut up and I had to basically had to completely detach myself 100% from anything TLC. And I had to, I even unliked pages and everything. I was a little bit freaked out by it all. And that I was going to be paid basically to shut up and to not talk to anybody because I had so many people coming after me for interviews. You have no idea how many people are coming after me for. Still always trying to get interviews from me. To the point where some of them seem fake and they are not true and I have to question them, which I recently did online. Which I feel bad about because there’s a few people that were coming after me and I really shut them down thinking they weren’t real and they were actually real for major networks and I feel bad about that. So my apologies to anyone I was mean to. My phone number has been distributed, my address has been distributed. I’ve had people show up at my door which was a little bit strange. Yes, TLC definitely was behind trying to shut people up. I’m sure for a fact I’m going to get in trouble for discussing any of this because nobody wants the truth to come out. But unfortunately this is the truth and this is my truth and I’m not worried about really what happens at this point.

What about this new interview Samuel just did today?

https://vimeo.com/167588697

There are some casting networks that were interested in a separate show. The show has absolutely nothing to do with glorifying the Browns or the catfish scenario. They actually want to do a show with Sam, Lindsay, and myself to get our side of what really happened and take a peek into of Sam’s life because they actually interviewed Sam and met with Sam and they have some really great footage of Sam in this interview. So that was exciting for him. I know that. I don’t how far it is with Lindsay at this point. But they wanted to share this side of the story basically when you are caught up in a scandal that you didn’t create and yet it kind of ruins you in many ways. That kind of story. So I thought that was pretty cool but of course there have been no answers as far as if I would even be involved in that or not. So that was the other way that it’s been proven that Sam is actually a man because they have all of this footage of this guy and it’s the same person that I know and it’s pretty interesting. It’s great I guess when you have people who have met and been able to validate that shoot I believe this. It’s good. It makes you like okay, I’m not losing my mind here. I know for a fact I’ve talking to somebody I met this guy I know he’s real and it’s crazy. It’s just nice to be validated. So hopefully the interview eventually does come out. I’m not sure when it will, if it will or if it’s going to end up on the show or not.

What about the rumors you are trying to get money off of this?

https://vimeo.com/167588793

Interesting making money off of Meri Brown’s affair that’s the other rumor going around is that I’m just trying to bank off of it. Or get famous off of it and the funny part is, believe me, you don’t want to be recognized or known or famous for working with a polygamous family on tv. I’ve made this comment many times before in the past. I’ve lost jobs being associated with this family. Trolls and haters out there, that’s bull. You know what, that’s not true. I have no interest in that. And no I don’t have an interest in destroying the family or taking them down. I have interest in the truth. When you have faith in God and you have religion in your heart whatever you want to call it people of all different kinds of faiths, being truthful and honest is the best point. It’s kind of what you should be doing anyway. Practice what you preach. I guess I’ve had enough evidence presented to me to know my reality and my truth and what I’ve seen to be real. I will just hope that they would do the same.

Kendra Follow Up Interview Part 1

  1. The first time and only time you have met Samuel and Lindsay was after your baby was born, how did that go?
https://vimeo.com/167504042
Actually it was really sweet. Lindsay had contacted me. She hadn’t heard from me in a while. Contacted me and I had answered the phone and I was pretty hysterical at the hospital. I was in a very scary labor situation. It was one of scenarios  where I had expected and hoped my true friends would have reach out to me. And regardless of the situation right now with Robyn or anything that was going on you would have hoped. I know for a fact if anything  seriously was happening with Robyn I would definitely reach out and try to be there for her. Because I still care. But of course that didn’t happen for me. And Lindsay contacted me through the hospital because I wasn’t taking my phone calls on my phone and the nurse actually brought the phone in and she said that she knew that I was going through whatever and that they were actually in town. In town to see me. And they couldn’t come to the hospital while I was laboring because it was serious but they actually showed up the following morning and I got to personally meet Sam and meet Lindsay. And they were just really supportive and sweet. Luckily thank God everything turned out okay. The baby is perfect. It was unexpected and it was nice. It was kind of a last minute thing. I didn’t know about it. It showed what a true personality of who they are as people. So that was nice.

2. Samuel is really good-looking, he’s not some 50 year old fat guy?
https://vimeo.com/167508239
Samuel is definitely not a 50 year old fat guy. He is actually adorable and he is quite tall. I’m really short. I would say he is 6′ something. He’s very cute. He definitely does not look his age I know that has been a big critique amongst people. Lets be honest, I don’t even look my age. It’s possible in this day and age to actually not look your age because of a healthy lifestyle. I don’t think. I don’t know what else to say. He’s adorable he could be a little country Kerr. You know he kind of looks like, he could definitely be on one of those cute little videos. I still don’t understand what he saw in, you know. Well anyways.
3. What did you think of Lindsay when you first met her because she has quite the reputation for being mean and rude?
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She doesn’t have kids but she should have kids. She’s like a mama bear. She is just very protective. She has always been very sweet and very nice to me. She always looks out for everybody else but herself. She just, I don’t understand. I know what people are saying things about her because she comes off a certain way online because she has to be  defensive because everyone is attacking her. She is so nice and she made me feel so much better. She’s probably one of the only people who made me feel like I was actually thinking I’m going to be okay. She’s even kept in touch with me over the past few weeks because I had concerns or whatever. And she just asks are you okay? Is everything okay? Never has even been about herself, it’s just, totally selfless. I had not come across too many people like that. Honestly and especially this is such a huge surprise because she and I hated each other. From the beginning of all of this I was fiercely protective over the Browns and she was fiercely protective of Sam and that was great but it was not working for me at all. She was, it just didn’t work. Out of nowhere I think through all of the crap that we both have been through online and through all of this I’ve been completely 100% with her and I have not caught her in any dishonesty fortunately. Every thing she has ever said to me she has backed up 100% with evidence. Nothing else. I mean there were times she would even say I’m not going to say anything I’m just going to show you this. I mean come on. How more real can you get? It’s not all talk and no walk. It’s mostly all walk and no talk with Lindsay. She practices what she preaches and she backs it up. I’m a tough person to convince, believe me, and I don’t let a lot of people into my circle but I absolutely believe that she is a good person. A genuine person. And like I said, if she was a catfisher, she wouldn’t be around anymore. No way would she put herself out there like this. No way.
4. There is a large group of fans that want Samuel and Meri to be together. Have you heard about this?
https://vimeo.com/167507840
There’s actually a support page for Sam and Meri (15,032 members). There are a lot of people also that thought that she should be with him. They thought it was crazy that she had to think twice about it. They didn’t understand. To be honest at some point in this, in the beginning of all of this I believe I even said to her You seem so happy he seems to make you feel happy I don’t understand why you aren’t with him. I didn’t even understand that to be honest. But a lot of people want her to be happy they want her to be with the person, Sam, who makes her happy and a lot of people, the biggest reaction I ever get from  people are oh my god I hope it’s true. I hope it’s real. Because every thinks he’s a dream guy it would be amazing for her to be with him. Then there’s the ones that have actually spoken to him, I believe some have actually met him and they said the same thing. That he is amazing I don’t understand why he chose Meri but for whatever reason, they want them to be together. There has been a lot of different reactions.
5. What will make Meri finally tell the truth that Sam is real and there was no catfishing? Because Samuel’s tv interview is coming out soon.
https://vimeo.com/167504711
I think the only way that this is going to come out is that. I do believe Sam has to come out eventually and say this is what’s going on and that’s one way. And the other way is like I told Meri a long time ago honesty is the best policy. At the end of the day her fans will love her more for being truthful because unfortunately she has been so back and forth. One minute she was like I’ve fallen in love blah blah blah. I was flattered go back to the original interviews. And you look at them now and it was I was totally catfished I was totally ambushed. And TLC has definitely, they are benefiting big time now they are creating shows around it? Come on. This is ridiculous and let me add the majority of the fans like I said don’t buy it. They believe she did have a relationship with somebody. They believe whether it was emotional or physical they don’t care. And on top of that they all say that they believe it’s been setup for ratings. And it’s 100% turning out to be that way. This is a ratings shoot it’s turning into the catfish scenario. Here we got with the catfish story.
6. There is a rumor going around that you and Lindsay are working on a book, can you tell us more about that?
https://vimeo.com/167505183
At this point and time nothing has come out, the truth hasn’t come out yet. About any of it. And so I think that it’s a good time to clear up everything that’s been said and that is in question. And I think it’s a great opportunity for Lindsay to tell her side of the story because she is constantly being portrayed as this catfisher, this bad person or whatever. And  I don’t believe she’s this person. I don’t believe that she’s catfished anybody. Because my reason is she’s still here. And she still communicates publicly and on social media. And she hasn’t went into hiding. She’s actually always been there to defend me anytime anything has gone down publicly.
7. What do you think of Meri being on that catfish show?
https://vimeo.com/167508796
I think Meri being on that catfish show is a complete joke. And my reasons are this, number 1, when you are catfished by somebody you’re not carrying on with the relationship for 6 to 8 months even a year. You don’t put your heart and soul and invest completely in that person with I love yous and everything else. You don’t go hang out with their friends and associate with them and then get creeped out by them and then invite them to meet your family and become business partners in one way or another. That actually happened. You don’t sit there and, the problem with all of this though is the biggest problem is that she’s just not being honest and it comes out 100% out in her face you can read it all over her face. The problem I have and I’m trying to be calm about it is that she’s not being real. She’s not being truthful. She’s just telling everybody what she reads online and what people are saying because this is not really what happened.
8. What about all of the recent new people Meri is following on her Twitter account. Who are those people? They have hatefilled accounts and harass people online daily.
https://vimeo.com/167508928
I don’t understand also how Meri can go and buddy up with the biggest trolls on the internet. The people that she’s friends with online are the people that trashed the family for years. They are the worst of the worst. They were the ones that went out there and created Facebook groups just to bash on them and destroy them, create lies and rumors about them. They are the ones that we were fighting against for the longest time. And for her to sit there and pull them into her corner, where is her loyalty to her family? I don’t understand that. Believe me there are not her friends. Meri if you listen to this, they are not your friends. I don’t understand why you are doing that. You are basically creating relationships with the people that hate you guys. They don’t believe in your faith. They don’t believe in your family. They just want a part of this disgusting nonsense that is going online.
9. Do you think Samuel is going to sue Meri now that she is saying his name finally?
https://vimeo.com/167509269
Absolutely. I think what’s happened is she never once mentioned in the past, really brought up anyone’s name, she’s kept it private and quiet. And I think the fact is she’s just now putting the two names on blast. And in some people’s minds, in some fans minds it’s going to be in this version of the way people are thinking. Some people, most people right now are thinking she’s full of shit. They don’t believe her. And so they are going to see this and you know what she is actually naming people now. And Sam’s reaction, Lindsay’s reaction is going to be that’s slander. That’s defamation of character. That’s putting us in a position of dishonesty and now it’s going to be on national tv. So most people in that position would sue the shit out of somebody.
10. How do you know Meri is lying?
https://vimeo.com/167509659
It’s all up on the face. She’s not, this is hard to explain. She’s not. Her guard is still completely up. Her eyes are shifty she doesn’t make a lot of eye contact with whoever she is speaking with. She looks up quite a bit. Usually if people are being dishonest they look around they pause and they fill in words. They kind of create fillers and filters in their conversations. They want to kind of think about what they are going to say before they say it. And that’s exactly what she’s doing. Full honesty, you know we are sitting here having a conversation, fully honesty is you just come out and say exactly how it is. When you have to sit here and think about it, it’s like well, yeah I’m not sure. You know what I mean? She’s filling up space. Because she’s not being honest. There is no way she is being honest. I still don’t believe she is being honest. You can not tell me. You can not sit here and be in the public eye as much as she has been. Dealt with social media the way I have, the way she has, the way so many others have. You know when you are being screwed. Come on, it’s really not that tough. And you don’t egg on for months. And you don’t sit there and let it go and not go after these people. If she were legitimately catfished, why has she not gone legally after these people, a. and why hasn’t she not protected the people around her? That’s my other question. Because that’s what you should do.

Kendra’s Interview Part 3

interview  Kendra’s Interview part 3

 

 

 

Was Meri trying to save herself?

Absolutely. I think she turned it into whatever it could be besides her, she didn’t want to take responsibility for her action. I believe she found whatever way she could to get out of it. So, No no not true it didn’t happen I was led to believe this was it and so that’s why I behaved the way I did. I’m sorry. Really? I mean come on. That would be understandable after a few weeks of this person not wanting to hang out with you. But when you start sending nude pictures, sexy voicemails, I love yous, taking trips together, videos being recorded of things that. Well you can’t be hooking up with a ghost in those picture that’s for sure. You know what I mean? How are you going to go out there and say you were catfished. It was to cover her ass but unfortunately there was too much evidence to prove it (The affair) because there is no way, that’s a really long time to be catfished.

You had a very public war with Lindsay for months. How did that change?

This was the difference I think. Through all of this, well we butted heads big time because she was defending Sam,  I was defending the Browns. None of us were willing to budge on that either way. My goal was to get Sam and Meri, in the beginning, apart. Until I saw and realized that Meri had actually like been involved with him so that’s what changed my opinion on that. Initially it was, this is embarrassing. It’s chasing the family down. It’s attracting attention making the show look bad. Gotta go. Gotta go away. You(Lindsay) need to get him out of here. And that was my intention of reaching out to Sam was like dude what are you doing, you’re crazy, she’s married, stop. Go somewhere else. She and I, we just fought forever. I tried so hard to get truths out (From Lindsay) to find out for so long, is this friendship or relationship? Lindsay refused to budge, refused, refused, refused. It took months (5 months) to get an answer or truth. The only reason it happened was because what I just explained about because eventually the truth had to come out. It was the only way it could, by her showing me evidence.

How has defending Robyn changed?

When I was going through all of this public scrutiny, all the horrible articles coming out about me.  I believe when you are friends with somebody like I believed I was with Robyn. I have always supported her, I’ve always defended her and I’ve always been, basically, hung on the cross for doing stuff. She’s definitely not a fan favorite. She’s definitely one, people would be like you are out of your frickin mind for defending this person she’s a horrible person what is wrong with you. And I always found the good in her and I would fight tooth and nail for her, she can not ever deny that if she does, then she’s a liar. But when it came down to anything happening to me, never once did she ever, ever come up to bat for me. Maybe once or twice she would say that we knew each other. But aside from that, things like that she would never stood up for me. And that’s the one thing the trolls always pointed out and the haters. You fight like crazy for a family yet they never defend you. You are crazy what’s wrong with you. You must be an idiot. It’s kind of true. It’s definitely true. They never defended me, ever.

Will Meri leave someday?

That’s kind of a trick question because I think what it comes down to is money. During this time that Meri was with Sam or seeing Sam he was financially helping her in many ways, which she’ll never admit. But he was. So it comes down to money. That’s just what it comes down to.

What do you feel about Robyn now?

My feelings about Robyn is she’s completely changed. She’s not the person I met years ago. I guess I might as well be honest with how I feel. Robyn completely changed and morphed into the person everybody said she was. She went from being Kody’s new wife who’s been put through all these horrible things from the other wives to being the number one slot controlling the situation often talking over the other wives. Basically taking control of everything. And I’ve seen that happen I’ve kind of been watching it and I believe I expressed that to her a few times like this is how it’s appearing on tv. But the truth is I believe she’s completely changed. It no longer became, I really don’t know how to explain myself, honestly, I don’t know how to explain it. All I can tell you is that everything that people, the opinions that people have been putting out there or the people who have been seeing it who have really met Robyn, how she’s changed. She’s definitely changed.

Is Robyn the favorite?

I think that Kody and Robyn found something that Kody didn’t expect. I think that in many ways Robyn is his soulmate. She’s pretty much everything he didn’t expect that he ever really wanted in a relationship. I believe that Robyn gives Kody and this is completely not my opinion of her right now it’s what I’ve seen, but I do believe that she fulfills him in everyway meaning that she. She makes sure that he’s number one. She makes sure that he knows how much she loves him. She makes sure that he’s valued in their relationship. And I’m not saying that that doesn’t happen in the other relationships or never has happened. But I think after 20 something years of marriage and raising kids situations changed. And I think that when Kody found all of this in Robyn he took a seat back in the other relationships because they were too difficult or problems came up or whatever. Whatever the situation is whatever people have seen on tv unfold is what they’re pretty open about that I guess. I think that, I do believe because, I really do believe this that he does love and respect his other wives. As far as Meri is concerned that’s a kind of on a different off topic situation but I do believe that as far as Janelle and Christine, he loves and respects and he honors his family and it’s not something he would ever intentionally just break up. He wouldn’t do that, he would have done that a long time ago. I do believe in his heart without any intention of hurting anyone else Robyn became just his soulmate. She just fulfills everything and I mean there’s nothing, it’s not that it’s ever going to take him away from his other wives, really, physicially forever. And I do believe it definitely impacted the relationships unintentionally and he has to work a little bit harder to give more to these other women. That’s just 100% my feelings from what I’ve seen. I think that just on a side note that Janelle and Christine are amazing. I think that Christine gives her all to her family. She just doesn’t, I’ve never personally experienced any. She doesn’t make anything public. Her feelings are her feelings and she pretty much keeps it inside. When I was around them I just saw her just be this super amazing mom who, she just adores her kids and takes extra care of her family, she’s very sweet with Kody and with all of her sister wives. That’s all I’ve ever seen is her being really sweet. And Janelle, when I was around her, she’s so nice and down to Earth, such a good person. I really think that they love the other wives. And as far as Meri is concerned from my opinion of her, she just adores her daughter, her daughter is her life. And her relationship with Kody is crap and she found whatever she found in Samuel that fulfilled it or what she has always wanted and never knew she needed. I guess the, I can’t sit here and just put all of this blame on Kody because I know it takes two in every relationship. But at the same time, he’s doing what he needs to do to publicly protect his family and I believe that. But I don’t think he’s being honest with himself.

Meri’s confession to you

I thought it was strange to tell me these things because she was in this position where she was denying everything so much. But I did get upset with her it was after the Tell-All, I did get upset. Why are you acting like this, why are you guys acting like this, I don’t understand it’s so fake. Nobody is going to believe this Tell-All, there’s no way they would believe the Tell-All. And nobody really did, nobody really did. They (The fans) couldn’t believe it. She said well you know, I don’t remember word for word but she basically responded with she understood completely how I was feeling and she responded with, she just basically couldn’t. She fell in love with him (Samuel) I mean that’s it and she couldn’t deny it and she couldn’t go out there and publicly say it because then it would hurt the family. And the family is, she’s got to sit here and now protect the family and the mistake she’s made. And she just doesn’t know what to do anymore.

How did it feel like knowing they weren’t really happy?

I had this image of this family for so many years. Kody just this great protecter. He had these wives he took such great care of and he brought this wife in and it was difficult for everyone to adjust and they finally started to adjust. Robyn was finally starting to feel a part of the family. So I had this wonderful image of how great things were. And to see it not be that way was so crushing. It really was crushing for me. It was emotional. It was hard to see it was hard to watch with so much sadness occurr. That was the worst part for me always believing that Meri was the strong first wife, she just kind of dealt with whatever. To know that it was so far from the truth and she was really literally breaking inside.

 

 

 

 

 

Kendra’s Interview Part 2

interview  The second part of Kendra’s interview.

 

 

 

How did you get proof of the affair?

This is the thing though, is that Lindsay never would tell me anything, no matter what I said. So going back I was thinking there is no way she’s going to even talk to me or anything. She’s just going to keep shutting me down. I’m never going to get any validation on what’s going on. Even though I’ve spoken to Samuel on the phone before and I had ideas in my head of what was really going on I needed something more. More kind of proof like evidence that there was an actual relationship between Meri and this person.  So that’s when I confronted Lindsay about it. And Lindsay started to send me pictures and snippets of recordings, conversations, voicemails.

What did you do after you saw evidence?

And at that point in time I reached out to Meri because listen, you don’t have. You don’t put yourself that far (Meaning Samuel) out there on the line whether it’s a voicemail or a picture or a letter if you’ve not had a relationship with somebody. Nobody in their right mind would do that, as intimate and personal as it was, unless you are having a physical relationship with somebody. And that’s when I brought that up to Robyn and I sent the information to Robyn and I probably at that point shouldn’t have but I was so like, I couldn’t believe it what I was hearing. It was like Robyn you are being lied to by Meri she’s not being honest with you and that’s when I talked to Meri about it. And I told Robyn I need to talk to Meri about it. I want to know exactly what in the hell is going on because I’m stuck in the middle of all of this.

What did you think about all the evidence after talking to Robyn?

And I need to know what the truth is. You can’t, I’m sorry but evidence is evidence. Go ahead and twist it anyway you want. I still am not going to. I can not erase the evidence from my mind it’s just not going to go away. And especially the voicemails and the pictures. Because everything she was saying was replying to a conversation that she had to have had with this guy. Right? Or a picture was taken in a response to an action he sent to her. It’s not like she’s just doing this in mid-air to some stranger. She can’t be that stupid, she’s a public figure.

What did you think after talking to Meri about her catfish story?

I just didn’t believe her. I just didn’t believe her. I kept telling her it’s okay Meri I don’t care. I’m not at this point of the stage of everything I’m not going to sit here and condemn you for loving this person. Or doing these pictures or sending these voicemails or sharing your love for somebody. I just want to know what the hell is going on because it’s driving me crazy. I have you(Meri) telling me one thing, and I have Lindsay not telling me anything just sending me pictures and voicemails. Do you see what the conflict is here? I have your words Meri versus everything Lindsay has ever told me has come up to be backed up with evidence, like actual evidence. (Kendra was sent a lot more information at this point than anyone knows about, sexually explicit photos and videos proving Meri and Samuel were having a sexual relationship)

What about all of the articles coming out?

Because at the same exact time articles were coming out saying and stating that I was giving interviews in regards to, that Robyn and I had actually created this catfish storyline. To get rid of Meri. So that Robyn can have Kody all to herself. And then it was Lindsay and I were working together to get rid of Meri for whatever. It was all these scenarios that were not true they were all fake and they were all drummed up. And at no time since between any of this did any of the Browns step forward and say no way. It’s not true. They never defended the truth publicly ever. And when I went to Meri I finally had said to her I said, Meri the best thing you can do for your fans’ sake and your family’s sake is just be honest with the actual truth. Don’t lie, don’t deny, don’t whatever. Because you can not deny the pictures. You can not deny the voicemails.

Who started harassing you?

Meri befriended and still is actively is friends on Twitter with, we’re talking going 5 years back or so. There were tons of hate groups created against the Brown family for years. These are the people we have been fighting against for years. People that put out all the information about the welfare fraud or you know just terrible information about Robyn. These are the people that did really inappropriate things, mean, to pictures in regards to their children. Meri decided to befriend these people.

What did you think about Meri’s public statement?

Within this time period I was contacted anonymously by a few different women claiming that they had been catfished as well. Same scenario. Amazing, right? The same scenario they wouldn’t give up their names, identifications or phone numbers. So I got a few calls that were out of, they were all coming from Vegas, which is very ironic. Strange, don’t you think? And so I asked Meri about it, I reached out to her and she said, she claimed that she would help anybody that had been through this before. But yet she was not willing to help these women or hear their stories she referred us to the FBI. That they (The Family) had already opened up a case with the FBI and that was the referral that she wanted us to do. So that’s when I went and contacted the FBI for these women, because my gosh they were totally taken advantage of and how terrible is that, it’s a terrible thing. And the FBI basically laughed, literally on the phone and said there is no case first of all. Second of all, this is nonsense and we don’t have time for this, that it’s garbage. Take it somewhere else.

You don’t believe Meri was catfished?

No I don’t believe there was a catfish because a catfish scenario. Very common, typical catfish according to Nev Schulman from the Catfish show and Max, you know Max, right? (Yes we do) A catfish never wants to be discovered. A catfish will hide behind another person’s identity. An actual person’s identity so there is actually a traceable human being attached to a catfisher. It’s not an imaginary person made up. There’s actually somebody there that they are pretending to be. That’s how 99.9% of cases are. Once the catfisher is caught they usually disappear or they never want to be heard of again. They don’t continue to put themselves out there publicly. They don’t catfish celebrities most of the time and if they do, the just disappear. They don’t want to be caught. Most of the catfishers out there are people that are just insecure who have had a tough time and they just wanted a little attention. Well once they get the attention or they get caught they’re gone. So in my opinion if this is a true catfish scenario why is it someone’s still around?  It doesn’t make any sense. Especially after all this horrific nonsense. People are still around.

What did you feel about the catfish story?

After all of this came about and the discussions had happened between Robyn and I, I reached out to Meri and said that we really need to talk, again, this was via the phone. And that’s when I let her know I was heavily in communication with Lindsay and Samuel and that unfortunately because at a week or so prior Robyn had convinced me that this was fake and that they were being smeared and catfished and this was not real that there was no man. And so I approached Lindsay with a bit of frustration or I was pretty much pissed because I know what was going on and I knew what she (Lindsay) knew was happening. And then I have this family over here telling me nothing ever happened she never met anybody and all of this nonsense and I was like okay well that’s just great. And then Lindsay was like okay I guess the best thing to do is prove to you.

What does this scandal do for Polygamy?

See I’m going to go back to my own soapbox and my own power here and I still don’t care. I think I made this clear multiple times to everybody involved. At the end of the day I still don’t care what happened. What really truly happened was here is this family that’s supposed to be the public polygamy whatever you want to call them, role models out there. To bring the nation, the world, together to understand that this is a possibility that families can live in many different ways whether it be gay,straight, polygamy life, multiple wives. They can be happy, fully functioning, honest, good familes. They had their chance, they had the best platform to portray this in and it’s turned into a complete mess and a complete joke. It’s taken a lot of people down with them. That’s the problem, at the end of the day, she made a decision to step outside of her marriage and seek love elsewhere. I don’t care how this scenario turned out in other people’s minds, I don’t care what she’s trying to say happened. The sad part is, back to square one.

Kendra’s Interview 1st Part

 

interview  Kendra was interviewed about the affair and what she knew, who she told, and what she found out later on. Here are a few snippets of her interview.

 

 

What did Samuel say about the affair?

He was really sweet. He told me, he got really emotional I believe he even cried about it. He told me that they fell in love. That was pretty much it. It wasn’t like planned. They started out as friends. But it just grew. Yeah, he adores her. And that was, I mean it was really simple it wasn’t that much. But he kept it to the point.

 

Why did your opinion of the family change?

I was always on the line for them and when I started to see their reality unfold as to be completely fake and just staged. I was, I started to, yeah, I lost compelete faith in them. And it’s not just one thing it’s been multiple things. Empty promises from Robyn. Only needing me when she needed something. You know, it’s been like a series of things. A series of let downs. It’s not even about, I’m not sitting here crying to myself I’m actually really happy and proud of myself for pulling away and being really honest about it because I’ve had everyone I know around me say the same things and I’ve ignored it. And then to have it really be true, this thing with Meri was the kicker. It really was. Because the situation is it doesn’t matter, honest to God it doesn’t matter what occurred with whom or whatever. What matters is this woman felt desperate that she needed to find love elsewhere and that’s because her home was so broken. That’s the truth of the matter. So the rest of it really doesn’t matter she was a very broken bad, desperate person. And that only happens when you are being neglected at home. And it’s impossible when you have a huge family like that. For her to be that hurt and let down, it was really sad to me. And it makes me more sad that Robyn was selffish. That she didn’t take time to go, you know what Kody you spend too much time with me, go be with your wives. She didn’t encourage any of that shit. She had no problem with him always being at her house, sneaking in the door. He would leave 10, 11 o’clock at night and go be with whoever he needed to be with and be right back in her bed at 6 in the morning. That is not how it should be. So all of that changed my opinion of everybody. It really did.

Who did you tell when you found out?

And my thing the whole time to Kody was, Kody. I told Kody, I think I told Kody and I told Robyn, I know I told Robyn I don’t remember if Kody was in the room. I was like why don’t you just go and woo her back? I don’t understand. Here is your wife, she’s fallen for someone else and he didn’t believe at first(The affair). You know, he clearly didn’t believe it but then he, he knew. He knew it was going on and then he started to believe it and once he realized what was going on, that’s when he was like I’m taking this piece of shit guy down. And that’s when we were like dude it goes both ways. If she’s not happy here and you’re making it clear that you’re unhappy with her anyway, who cares? You know, I mean you either woo her back or you let her go. You have two choices. That’s pretty much all it is, right?

What happened when you went to Meri’s house to ask about the rumors?
The very first time, going over and talking to her. What happened was she was not. She was totally withdrawn from the family, she wasn’t communicating with anybody, she sat in the corner. I was there visiting and I was like something is not right with her. I knew something wasn’t right. Robyn had said many times Meri is totally withdrawn. All of them had said she pulled away from the whole family. Completely. And it’s true. So when I actually saw it I was like, well I know exactly what’s  going on (The affair) and I’m going to go talk to her about it before I talk to anybody else about it because I thought that was just the right thing to do. So I said can we talk? And we went and talked in Christine’s house for a few minutes and then she said you know what. After I brought up the Sam thing, after we went back to Robyn’s house, she sent me a text and said maybe you should come over here and we should talk about this. You know, more indepth. Privately. And so I went over there (To Meri’s house) and we sat down and I said look I know what’s going on. I’ve seen all the messages (On twitter), you know I was getting everything from fans in the groups so I didn’t really know what was going on until I started researching it. When I  finally went on twitter I said you know you’re obviously perfectly very open and aware that this is happening publicly (The affair). And you’re not having an issue with it and it’s totally inappropriate.

When did Robyn tell you Meri confirmed the affair was real?

Yeah, that’s when she went, she’s like I talked to Meri and everything’s okay. But Meri made it clear to her that she was ending it. She was like leaving Samuel I believe, that she had fallen in love. That like, it was going to be over (The affair). Because she mislead Robyn too. Unfortunately. She mislead Robyn because we all knew darn well that wasn’t over. And Robyn started to believe her. I had, that’s when she (Meri) got on the I have to support my family train that started to really make me upset because she(Robyn) wasn’t listening(That the affair really wasn’t over, Meri was misleading Robyn to believe it was over).

What has the family done to hurt your public image?

What this family has done is they dragged, allowed my name, Lindsay’s name, any person who was involved in this scenario at all to be dragged through the mud.

What did you think about Samuel after talking to him for the first time?

He was very open about himself like, he introduced himself to me. I was a little bit shocked that he was even real to be honest. Because there were so many people saying he wasn’t real or he was just some guy she met, he wasn’t in love her. You know what I mean, like I don’t know. I was just still shocked that he was, here’s this guy. And he’s so, he’s so nice.

What did you tell her about what you saw on twitter?

You know what and she spent the whole time playing on her phone. And I’m like okay cool I get it. So I said to her. I said I understand you’re not happy. I’ve known for a very long time that you’ve been unhappy through Robyn. Robyn tells me everything. That’s another truth that, yes she told me everything. I know you’ve been miserable. I know your marriage turned out to not be exactly what you hoped for. I know all of these things. So if you’ve found somebody I think it’s amazing and I think you should go for it and I’m not speaking as Robyn’s friend and I wasn’t speaking as, what I already knew personally. I was speaking in the realm of Once you find something so amazing you need to go for it.

What did Meri say when you asked what was going on?

She was coy she was like I can’t explain it. It’s like her. You could read it all over her face. She was happy. She was in love. She was in the glow state. And she was like he’s just a friend and she would just laugh laugh laugh giggle. He makes me happy. He’s somebody I can talk to. He gets me. He understands me. I haven’t had this for a long time.

What did Robyn say about the rumors?

I told her something was going on. And she was kind of like “What do you mean? Show me” like so we kind of did our own investigating together. Pretty much did it together because I was with her. So, we pulled everything up. Fans started posting on her group on her Facebook page (Robyn Sullivan Brown Sister Wife #4 page that has been taken down by Robyn for the past 7 months now) oh look what Meri’s doing look who Meri’s talking to. Who’s Sam who’s this guy, who’s this guy? And that meeting was the night we didn’t have too much information at that point because we were both trying to figure it out.

What did Meri’s daughter think about the rumors?

I was there the second time. Mariah was there she had gone to get juice. Jambo juice or something. And we were talking and I said, and that’s when I was really like open to Meri and I said you know I see what’s going on with this, cause I had already had conversations with Kody and Robyn and I knew exactly where his head was at. Nothing was going to change for Meri at home, you know. Things had changed so much that she was never going to find happiness like she found with this guy. So I basically was like, I think that you need to just go for it and I basically encouraged her to leave. I said that you need to go find yourself and your happiness. And I think you already found it and I think its the best thing for you. Well Mariah, Mariah wasn’t happy with any of it at all. She was pissed actually. She thought it was disgusting and embarrasing and disturbing. And she thought from what Robyn and everyone said she was completely unsupportive of Meri. She was disgusted with Meri. All this family ever said of Meri is she was mentally ill and she was insane.

Meri sold you on the fact that Samuel was supporting her and loving her?

My concerns of um, them having this, carrying this relationship on. But you know, he (Samuel) was like she’s unhappy, she’s miserable there. You know. Um, he was supporting her. That was totally understandable. Of course he’s going to support her. I would expect anyone to support the person that they fall in love with. She had me sold on that.

How Did Meri act when you asked about things?

I could see in her face that she was totally done. Like, she was, it was all about her and this guy. So it didn’t matter.

Did Robyn Know?

Robyn was with me the whole time. Robyn was kind of like “Oops I can’t tell anyone I know this. Nobody can know. Meri can not know, nobody can know”. She wanted to be off record completely, knowing anything, yet she knew everything the whole time.